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C.E. Niehoff & Co. C627/C628/C631/C656/C657/C658/C671/C680 Troubleshooting Guides User Manual

C.E. Niehoff & Co. Hardware

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Table of Contents

Section A: Alternator Description and Operation . 2–3
Section B: Basic Troubleshooting ............................4
Section C: Comprehensive Troubleshooting ......... 5–7

Battery Conditions

Until temperatures of electrical

system components stabilize, these

conditions may be observed during

cold start voltage tests.

• Maintenance/low maintenance battery:

— Immediately after engine starts, system volts are

lower than regulator setpoint with medium amps.

— 3-5 minutes into charge cycle, higher system volts

and reduced amps.

— 5-10 minutes into charge cycle, system volts are

at, or nearly at, regulator setpoint, and amps are

reduced to a minimum.

— Low maintenance battery has same characteris-

tics with slightly longer recharge times.

• Maintenance-free battery:

— Immediately after engine start, system volts are

lower than regulator setpoint with low amps.

— 15-30 minutes into charge cycle, still low volts

and low amps.

— 15-30 minutes into charge cycle, volts increase

several tenths. Amps increase gradually, then

quickly to medium to high amps.

— 20-35 minutes into charge cycle, volts increase

to setpoint and amps decrease.

• High-cycle maintenance-free battery:

— These batteries respond better than standard

maintenance-free. Charge acceptance of these

batteries may display characteristics similar to

maintenance batteries.

NOTICE

Hazard Definitions

These terms are used to bring attention to presence of hazards

of various risk levels or to important information concerning
product life.

Indicates presence of hazards that

will or can cause minor personal

injury or property damage.

Indicates special instructions on

installation, operation or mainte-

nance that are important but not

related to personal injury hazards.

CAUTION

NOTICE

C627, C628, C631, C656, C657, C658, C671 and C680

Alternator Troubleshooting Guide

Charge Volt and Amp Values

The volt and amp levels are a function of the battery state
of charge. If batteries are in a state of discharge,
as after extended cranking time to start the engine,
the system volts, when measured after the engine is
started will be lower than the regulator set point and the
system amps will be high. This is a normal condition for
the charging system. The measured values of system

volts and amps will depend on the level of battery

discharge. In other words, the greater the battery
discharge level the lower the system volts and higher the

system amps will be. The volt and amp readings will
change, system volts reading will increase up to regula-
tor set point and the system amps will decrease to low
level (depending on other loads) as the batteries recover

and become fully charged.

Low Amps: A minimum or lowest charging system

amp value required to maintain battery state of

charge, obtained when testing the charging system
with a fully charged battery and no other loads
applied. This value will vary with battery type.

Medium Amps: A system amps value which can

cause the battery temperature to rise above the
adequate charging temperature within 4-8 hours of

charge time. To prevent battery damage the charge
amps should be reduced when battery temperature
rises. Check battery manufacturer’s recommenda-

tions for proper rates of charge amps.

High Amps: A system amps value which can cause

the battery temperature to rise above adequate
charging temperature within 2-3 hours. To prevent

battery damage the charge amps should be reduced
when the battery temperature rises. Check battery
manufacturer’s recommendations for proper rates of

charge amps.

Battery Voltage: Steady-state voltage value as meas-

ured with battery in open circuit with no battery
load. This value relates to battery state of charge.

Charge Voltage: A voltage value obtained when the

charging system is operating. This value will be

higher than battery voltage and must never exceed

the regulator voltage set point.

B+ Voltage: A voltage value obtained when measur-

ing voltage at battery positive terminal or alternator

B+ terminal.

Surface Charge: A higher than normal battery volt-

age occurring when the battery is removed from

a battery charger. The surface charge must be
removed to determine true battery voltage and state

of charge.

Significant Magnetism: A change in the strength or

intensity of a magnetic field present in the alternator
rotor shaft when the field coil is energized. The mag-

netic field strength when the field coil is energized

should feel stronger than when the field is not ener-
gized.

Voltage Droop or Sag: A normal condition which

occurs when the load demand on the alternator is
greater than rated alternator output at given rotor
shaft RPM.