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C.E. Niehoff & Co. C622 Troubleshooting Guides User Manual

C.E. Niehoff & Co. Hardware

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Table of Contents

Section 1: Wiring Diagram ...................................... 2
Section 2: Basic Troubleshooting ........................... 3
Section 3: Advanced Troubleshooting ................4 – 7

Battery Conditions

Until temperatures of electrical
system components stabilize, these

conditions may be observed during cold start voltage tests.
• Maintenance/low maintenance battery:

— Immediately after engine starts, system volts

are lower than regulator setpoint with medium
amps.

— 3-5 minutes into charge cycle, higher system

volts and reduced amps.

— 5-10 minutes into charge cycle, system volts

are at, or nearly at, regulator setpoint, and
amps are reduced to a minimum.

— Low maintenance battery has same charac-

teristics with slightly longer recharge times.

• Maintenance-free battery:

— Immediately after engine start, system volts

are lower than regulator setpoint with low
charging amps.

— 15-30 minutes into charge cycle, still low volts

and low amps.

— 15-30 minutes into charge cycle, volts increase

several tenths. Amps increase gradually, then
quickly to medium to high amps.

— 20-35 minutes into charge cycle, volts increase

to setpoint and amps decrease.

• High-cycle maintenance-free battery:

— These batteries respond better than standard

maintenance-free. Charge acceptance of these
batteries may display characteristics similar to
maintenance batteries.

NOTICE

Hazard Definitions

These terms are used to bring attention to presence of hazards
of various risk levels or to important information concerning
product life.

Indicates presence of hazards that
will cause severe personal inury,

death or substantial property damage if ignored.

Indicates presence of hazards
that will or can cause minor

personal injury or property damage if ignored.

Indicates special instructions
on installation, operation or

maintenance that are important but not related to
personal injury hazards.

CAUTION

NOTICE

600 Series Troubleshooting Guide

for C622 Alternators

Charge Volt and Amp Values

The volt and amp levels are a function of the battery
state of charge. If batteries are in a state of discharge,
as after extended cranking time to start the engine, the
system volts, when measured after the engine is started

will be lower than the regulator setpoint and the system
amps will be high. This is a normal condition for the
charging system. The measured values of system volts
and amps will depend on the level of battery discharge.
In other words, the greater the battery discharge level,
the lower the system volts and higher the system amps
will be. The volt and amp readings will change, system
volts reading will increase up to regulator setpoint and
the system amps will decrease to low level (depending
on other loads) as the batteries recover and become fully
charged.

Low Amps: A minimum or lowest charging system

amp value required to maintain battery state of
charge, obtained when testing the charging system
with a fully charged battery and no other loads
applied. This value will vary with battery type.

Medium Amps: A system amps value which can

cause the battery temperature to rise above the
adequate charging temperature within 4-8 hours of
charge time. To prevent battery damage, the charge
amps should be reduced when battery temperature
rises. Check battery manufacturer’s recommenda-
tions for proper rates of charge amps.

High Amps: A system amps value which can cause

the battery temperature to rise above adequate
charging temperature within 2-3 hours. To prevent
battery damage the charge amps should be reduced

when the battery temperature rises. Check battery
manufacturer’s recommendations for proper rates
of charge amps.

Battery Voltage: Steady-state voltage value as

measured with battery in open circuit with no
battery load. This value relates to battery state of
charge.

Charge Voltage: A voltage value obtained when the

charging system is operating. This value will be
higher than battery voltage and must never exceed
the regulator voltage setpoint.

B+ Voltage: A voltage value obtained when measur-

ing voltage at battery positive terminal or alternator
B+ terminal.

Surface Charge: A higher than normal battery

voltage occurring when the battery is removed from
a battery charger. The surface charge must be
removed to determine true battery voltage and state
of charge.

Significant Magnetism: A change in the strength or

intensity of a magnetic field present in the alternator
rotor shaft when the field coil is energized. The
magnetic field strength when the field coil is ener-
gized should feel stronger than when the field is not
energized.

Voltage Droop or Sag: A normal condition which

occurs when the load demand on the alternator is
greater than rated alternator output at given rotor
shaft RPM.

DANGER